See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. Thank you for your consideration. Yes, this was taken after their photos at the Mirador. Celebrity. and happened to Kris that would explain why Lisannes phone was first one used to make an SOS call. Lastly, I totally see animal pelts inside the structure. I think the most important photos were not the daytime ones; I think the most important photos were some of the legible nighttime ones. If you dont know the story, I recommend you visit the link at the bottom of this page. Or whoever deleted the photos may have overlooked to delete this one as they could have done it in a hurry as well. Tuesday morning, Velleman and Borries were recovered from inside the plane, according to Albert Lewitinn, a representative for the Velleman family. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. If it is a photo-op, why is Kris not waving her hands or something. I dont understand the question. But others have suggested the chilling photos might have been taken by someone else after killing the girls. Does this take a high level of tech knowledge and a computer? This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. Where is the Ping for that time? Only three days later the three assailants were given their sentences: Hctor Abrego - 15 years in prison and must pay his sentence in jail in Santiago. A path looks different anyway when you walk back the other way so they would not be aware they were not heading the right way and carried on. So, their work was good but not perfect. I think they knew too much and someone wanted them to be silenced forever. This photo has been edited. I am from Panama, and I know that there are way more dangerous drug and crime cartels active in remote parts of the country than officials want to admit to because the tourism would be affected. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. That is why the poor often resort to vigilantism. Thanks for any information you can provide. A lot of times countries dont want investigations to be publicized or they shut them down as best they can in order for their tourist trade to not be hurt!!!!! Este rosto de uma jovem que est angustiada,aterrorizada sem saber o que fazer para se salvar. Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. There are some walls of rock in an area which I think is called los Naranjos, not too far from the Pianista trail (relatively speaking) and is where people go climbing. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. Maybe they stumbled on a hidden stash of drugs or something wierd and were taking a photo of the location in order to report it to the police, but got caught before they could. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. What we do know is for 5 days after they disappeared, her phone was checked about a dozen times. The bones of Lisannes foot were fractured in an unusual way (from the top down). The students' phone records also tragically revealed how they desperately tried to call the police. That could just be confirmation bias on my part. They keep trying to call emergency. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. Someone in the comments put the link to your website thats how I found you! This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. Kris and Lisanne's families decided to fly out to Panama and bring Dutch detectives with them. It is the poor color quality of the photograph with oversaturated reds that has people thinking they are seeing skulls and carcasses. Ive written about many disappearances in Central America: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/, Thank you for your comment and please feel free to send me any notes/info that you find. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. I cant imagine the rednecks in Alto Romero or the lads from Calderas having the wit to bother with it. Youre asking why didnt they try to call a friend or family member WHEN THEY COULDNT EVEN GET A SIGNAL TO THE POLICE? This level of negligence and irresponsibility would be considered criminal in a developed country. At least the trash element and roof structure looks like very strong evidence. Think about it. Thank you, Sue. A priest of sorts. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. So without doubt, someone tampered with the photos to some degree. perhaps there is much that was missed by a very bungled police investigation. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. For this websites credibility I would strongly recommend more thorough moderation of peoples comments. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System reported that more than 600,000 people go missing in the US every year, but the majority are quickly . Rights of initiation? Her hands are not tied. The backpack had no scratches, no marks, the camera and mobile phones inside are as good as new. Which other objects in this photo look unnatural to you? Hi Rune (and Stian), great points. What do you think?? Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. Wearing minimal clothing, no knife of compass which were left in their room. Out of the dozens of calls, only one managed to connect, but broke up after just two seconds due to the lack of reception. & very very eerie all in all- I think youre absolutely right on its significance. I think the look on her face isnt scared, but she looks to maybe be in wonder that they found a place like that? And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. Should have read this before I commented lol. Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. It most certainly is not a joke. Ive even been contacted by people in Asia. There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. Im curious about your experience living abroad. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Keep the ideas flowing guys. In the first half of this year, tourist arrivals fell globally by more than 65 percent, with a near halt since Aprilcompared with 8 percent during the global financial crisis and 17 percent amid the SARS epidemic of 2003, according to ongoing IMF research on tourism in a post-pandemic world. These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. However being one of the last photos taken this location would be incredibly important to have investigated back in 2014 (or even still). https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kris+and+lisanne++finanli. Central America is notably inexpensive, free spirited, less commercialized and is typically hospitable to travelers, therefore many travelers from around the world seek these adventures. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. The case needs solid evidence and/or solid witnesses coming forward. Fact. They decided to enter the jungle, but they failed to mark their entry point into the jungle with a stack of rocks or some such marking. The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. I think the girls were made or persuaded against their wishes and by persons unknown, to go beyond the end of the Pianista trail to goodness knows where! That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. There appears to be a blue pieces of trash on the ground. Two months after the backpack was found, a pelvic bone and foot still inside a boot were discovered in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. US Is Europe's No. However, its still possible. This is an excellent analysis. The stats leave 42 cases currently open since 2007. Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. As we all know, hitting delete never actually deletes files therefore overwriting the files is the only effective method to cleaning old data. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. Or is it all part of a cover-up? 2. Heres what I think happened. . Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. However, if Continuous mode was in use then even if 509 was deleted, the next image will be 510. It is almost as if they are deliberately not to tell anything rather than the much speculated something. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). Sorry to bring up the dog again. The calls bother me though. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. ): https://ibb.co/nqy80hS Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. Here is what bothers me about this event. Dogs are very independent here. One was left above. The parallel side-supports would have been covered with leaves in order to make a suitable temporary roof. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. One thing which confused me were the bras the smaller one looks more like a bikini top. Hi Carin, thanks for your comment. At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. ), which doesnt look natural. But I see him in none of L&Ks photos. WHY? Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. Hopefully, this 2021 investigation can find the truth of exactly what happened. Bu that he meant an outcome which had no human input to the consequences. Kris en esta foto, tiene sus manos atrs, que podran estar atadas o esposadas . Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. But by April 6, the girls were still missing. Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. Do mobile phones store the number entered? Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. Perhaps a piece of a tarp or a wrapper? But because of their theatrics and ignoring the evidence, the story and curiosity will continue to keep this case alive. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. In reality, foreigners are usually not the target of gangs. As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? So this photo may possibly offer more insight into the story. However, upon closer inspection, shes really ducking her head as to say look at the things over my head. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. There is definitely a face on that the post/tree to the right of Kris. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. I dont see what the writer sees at all. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. Draw a line from that point in all directions as far as they could travel in the time to the emergency call, and there must be part of the answer to the mystery inside that circle. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. Most dog owners here do not use a leash when walking their dogs. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. The original plan had been for them to disappear without a trace, like so many other people in that part of Panam, but when the reward money was offered, they decided to fabricate a narrative in which the two girls had mysteriously lost their way on the trail. Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. Would like to know exactly where and when the final day photo was taken. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. Exhausted and waited somewhere near water for days. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Was the reception that bad in those locations? This was either something catastrophic or a developing situation due for example to them getting lost. The point is that all of this case was poorly handled by the authorities. Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. In either case, maybe the rucksack was looted then later planted to avoid criminal implication. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. Vittorio Caruso. Shortly after this, they became victims. Also I have read that during the time they tried to contact emergency services one phone connected albeit briefly. Packed up the bag, left it, and tried to walk out. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. I really feel that this place is the key to what happened to the girls. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. Because of thedark, the pairmight have usedthe camera flash as a light sourceor to scare away animals. Most of the tourists come from the United States, Canada, Europe, Central America, and South America. The phones showed that just hours after the beginning of their hike, someone dialed 112 and then 911. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Thats why Kris stops in photos once in a while as if to say this way, right?. From the story of Holger, it seems unlikely to imagine that the medical examiner overlooked the very serious condition of the cyclists remains. They could have been a target early on. For one, the girls' camera had photos on it from hours after they stopped dialing emergency services. The smooth rocks would further back that theory up and the blue trash could have just washed up thereperhaps. Yo veo en el fondo de la foto 506, adjunto al muslo, la pierna y el pie izquierdo de Kris, una silueta de un hombre joven, con sombrero de copa alta y ala ancha (al estilo de los sheriff norteamericanos), con una manta blanca sobre sus hombros,tronco y brazos y un rifle o escopeta en posicin horizontal sobre sus manos. The two friends were traveling home after spending New Year's Eve weekend at a bed and breakfast on the Panamanian island Isla Contadora on Jan. 3 when their small plane, piloted by the B&B owner, suffered an engine failure and crashed off the coast of Chame, according to friends and family. The Velleman family had been in touch with several Wisconsin and Illinois representatives as they sought assistance from the U.S. government in the search and recovery effort. Also, the parents did not release all the images. She is looking down to the left and appears to be shocked by what she sees. I do not see any eyes, but I can definitely see a nose and a mouth. The pictures taken were used to place Kris in pictures on the Mirador with Lisanne. I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. Something drastic happened it is clear but what exactly and where exactly? It must have been flowing in the river the police said. So, if the dog went on the hike with the girls, its most likely that the owners would not have known that fact. If you watch the four part video of the entire trail beyond the Mirador you will see exactly where this photo was taken, and there is not a cave or ledge or ravine anywhere near her. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. Was the dog fed and watered by a family as opposed to being one of the many feral dogs in Latin America? Much, much more revealing. Its worth mentioning how the police found out that someone tried unlocking Kris Kremers phone, but failed to do so. There is an international consortium working behind the scenes to slowly and methodically continue the investigation. Such a tragedy. Hi Justin, great work with sharpening this image. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. In a chilling discovery, 90 photos had been snapped on the camera deep in the jungle in the dead of night on April 8 between 1am and 4am - raising questions about who took the pictures. Seems like no one has taken off in the direction of the dog and what it could have offered us. The branches above her could be an attempt to hide the entrance. The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. In fact, its probable to some degree. Tourism in Panama represents one of Panama's main activities. And it seems to be leading to a dead-end. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). She realizes she has to try to find the river and decides to leave at dawn. People have been there. This was a real disappointment, the entry continued. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. On one hand, its more liberating and freeing. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. I havent spotted the finger with the silver ring in photo IMG_0580 thats the name of the hair photo, and in the night photos you found out that there are not one but two individuals that are of native origin nonetheless, which specific photos led you to that conclusion? How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? Hence the bras and everything safely stacked in the backpack together both girls sunglasses and both girls phones (otherwise each girl would be carrying her own phone). Her face also appears to be heavily damaged, bruised and bleeding and her hair appears to have been pulled out and or cut as its sticking out in ways that dont seem normal for her ponytail.. The first thing that strikes me as very odd in this photograph and I think I havent seen anyone pointing that out yet -, is a specific number. One obvious question - has anybody ever found the place that is in this photograph. The hand painted insignia looks more like a face to me.. It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. Only returning them in hopes of getting the reward. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Problem with that is that you would think they would simply turn round once they realised. They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. During thistime,Kremers and Froon repeatedly called for help. Adrien McNaughton Was Surrounded by Family, He Left Behind Books He Wrote in Secret Code, The Door Was Open, and Baby Lisa Was Gone. Constance Marten seen leaving court after appearing before magistrates charged with manslaughter of baby, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon blow each other a kiss in dock before court hears dead baby was found in bag in shed, Mum identified after dead baby is found on Canford Heath, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). Depending on how many mobile towers there are the police should have information. At that time, she had her phone. Honestly Ive hiked by myself before on a well known trail by my college and when I saw the American flag waving in the middle of the woods I was more scared than anything!!! They are free now. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. Terrible for the parents. To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. Are any of you familiar with the missing 411 phenomena? Ive removed their comment and blocked them from reposting. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Hello and thank you for doing such a thorough research. They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. Was someone who's still out there responsible for their deaths? There are shots of them exploring the jungle on April 1 which appear to show that all is well. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. Its very interesting that the dog is not clearly visible in any of the pictures. I think the night photos were taken by individuals who found the device and were not familiar with the camera, perhaps never seeing a camera before. So, when locals look at you sideways as they glance, glare, or even stare at your shorts and sandals, do not be offended or surprised. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon were both adventurers. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. With all the misinformation thrown out there and poor follow up work (likely to protect tourism), any ones guess is possible. Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. Two intelligent girls could not be veering off course to this dense vegetation on their own accord. Right now Im simply building a list of names to determine interest: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/14/organizing-a-research-team/. I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. The point-and-shoot camera numbers its files in ascending order, the way most digital cameras do. https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner. But the blue was also something I noticed. Were the photos altered in any way or is this a presumption?
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